"The Mandela Effect" is a phenomenon whereby collective memories believed to be true are actually false. For example, the line "play it again, Sam" from the movie Casablanca is a product of the Mandela Effect, because that line was never actually said in the movie, although everyone swears it was.
Has anyone heard about the Mandela Effect regarding the number of passengers in the JFK limo? We know there were six: JFK, Jackie, Gov & Mrs. Connally, Greer and Kellerman. However many people argue there were only four passengers (though if "researchers" like Mike Majerus insist only two shots were fired, anything is possible).
This video offers four reasons for believing there were only four passengers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=581vc009iqo
I bring this up because this video does actually prove something (although the video is so stupid I don't believe it has any self-awareness of the fact), which is the inadequacy of the accuracy that went into the "investigation." In fact, at the 4:57 mark the narrator says: "Would the United States Secret Service be likely to reenact the event with the wrong number of people in the car?"
Which leads one to wonder...why the inconsistencies?
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Wednesday, April 26, 2017
Wednesday, April 12, 2017
David Talbot
Kennedy Assassination Intrigue Swirls in D.C. Federal WASHINGTON (CN) – The journalist behind Salon.com has brought a federal complaint* [1] to get records on the ex-CIA official at the center of congressional investigations into the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. David Talbot, who has claimed in books and articles that Kennedy’s assassination was a conspiracy, says he asked the State Department and CIA for travel records and other documents about William “King” Harvey. At the CIA, Harvey worked on a program known as ZRRIFLE that recruited criminals in Europe to help conduct assassinations for the United States. Talbot also requested “passport and visa records” on F. Mark Wyatt, a former CIA officer who Talbot claims suspected Harvey knew of the assassination in advance. “F. Mark Wyatt attended a CIA meeting with Harvey on Sardinia in Nov. 22, 1963,” the complaint states. “When news of the Kennedy assassination reached them, Harvey blurted out remarks that led Wyatt to suspect that Harvey had prior knowledge of the Kennedy assassination.” Talbot wanted any photographs that the CIA had of Wyatt and Harvey. He notes that Harvey worked with Mafia members to try to take out former Cuban Prime Minister Fidel Castro, but was forced out of the program in 1962 after he sent “a series of raiding parties into Cuba at the height of the Cuban Missile Crisis.” In his 12-page complaint, filed Friday with a federal judge in Washington, Talbot says the State Department gave him just 5 full pages of the 10 documents on Wyatt it found. Talbot says the department took two years to let him know that it had no responsive records on Harvey.The CIA meanwhile turned over 419 pages of records, but it denied Talbot a fee waiver reserved for members of the media. Talbot says these CIA files also proved to be highly redacted. He says the agency searched only two departments for Harvey’s travel records. The agency did turn over a single photo of Harvey. The complaint includes little detail about what Talbot hopes to find in the documents, beyond citing articles and books he has written on the subject, including a November 2015 Salon article titled “Inside the Plot to Kill JFK: The Secret Story of the CIA and What Really Happened in Dallas.” James Lesar, Talbot’s attorney, has not returned a request for comment. A spokesman for the CIA declined to comment, citing department policy to not comment on ongoing litigation. On the same day Talbot filed his suit, U.S. District Judge Royce Lamberth tossed out* [2] an unrelated suit about footage of the Kennedy assassination. While the most-complete film of the shooting is credited to Abraham Zapruder, a Russian immigrant living in Texas, the government also studied footage of it on Orville Nix’s home-movie camera. Gail Nix Jackson brought a $10 million complaint in 2015 after the National Archives and Records Administration told her that her grandfather’s original footage had gone missing, along with the chain-of-custody index. Lamberth dismissed the suit for lack of jurisdiction, saying the case belongs in the U.S. Court of Federal Claims, not U.S. District Court. Nix’s footage captured the Kennedy motorcade rolling through Dealey Plaza from opposite the grassy knoll. The FBI and the House Select Committee on Assassinations used the film to investigate the shooting, but Nix also sold his footage to UPI for $5,000. Jackson learned that the House Select Committee on Assassinations took possession of the original footage in 1978, and that committee was supposed to turn over the film to the National Archives when it completed its tenure.
*[1] http://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content...plaint.pdf
*[2] http://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content...Ruling.pdf
Source: https://www.courthousenews.com/kennedy-a...c-federal/
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*[1] http://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content...plaint.pdf
*[2] http://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content...Ruling.pdf
Source: https://www.courthousenews.com/kennedy-a...c-federal/
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Thursday, April 6, 2017
Vincent Bugliosi's 53 Reasons... #40 Refuted.
(40) The four cartridge shells found at the Tippit murder scene were fired from Oswald's revolver.
Chain of custody issues raise their ugly head again. I'm quite sure that many people are aware that radio transmissions from the scene of the Tippit murder stated that the murderer was armed with an automatic. This is easily determined from the cartridges. Revolver cartridges have a rim that's larger than the case body - that stops the cartridge from moving too far into the cylinder chamber. Automatic cartridges, on the other hand, have a rim the *same size* as the case.
![[Image: 7bullets.jpg]](http://conspiracyjfkforum.com/images/7bullets.jpg)
There are two revolver cartridges shown here - can you spot them among the automatic cartridges?
The differences to an experienced police officer are obvious and can VERY QUICKLY be determined... but this caused a problem because Oswald didn't carry an automatic.
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Chain of custody issues raise their ugly head again. I'm quite sure that many people are aware that radio transmissions from the scene of the Tippit murder stated that the murderer was armed with an automatic. This is easily determined from the cartridges. Revolver cartridges have a rim that's larger than the case body - that stops the cartridge from moving too far into the cylinder chamber. Automatic cartridges, on the other hand, have a rim the *same size* as the case.
![[Image: 7bullets.jpg]](http://conspiracyjfkforum.com/images/7bullets.jpg)
There are two revolver cartridges shown here - can you spot them among the automatic cartridges?
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Saturday, April 1, 2017
Provable Lies Of The Warren Commission #2
"On Friday, November 1, Oswald did cash a Texas Unemployment Commission check for $33 at another supermarket in Irving..." (WCR 331)
"Mrs. Tarrants stated as best as she recalls, on Thursday night, October 31, 1963 LEE HARVEY OSWALD appeared at the cashier's cage and presented the above check to her and requested that it be cashed." (CE 1165 pg 6)
Notice that yet again, the actual TESTIMONY is in conflict with what the Warren Commission said it was... The Warren Commission had no evidence for Oswald cashing a check on Friday, rather than Thursday - but this wouldn't have fit the evolving storyline. The WC clearly didn't want to provide proof that a Thursday visit to Irving was not unique - for their theory needed a unique visit on a Thursday to pick up a rifle. They simply lied in order to do so.
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"Mrs. Tarrants stated as best as she recalls, on Thursday night, October 31, 1963 LEE HARVEY OSWALD appeared at the cashier's cage and presented the above check to her and requested that it be cashed." (CE 1165 pg 6)
Notice that yet again, the actual TESTIMONY is in conflict with what the Warren Commission said it was... The Warren Commission had no evidence for Oswald cashing a check on Friday, rather than Thursday - but this wouldn't have fit the evolving storyline. The WC clearly didn't want to provide proof that a Thursday visit to Irving was not unique - for their theory needed a unique visit on a Thursday to pick up a rifle. They simply lied in order to do so.
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It's Truly Amusing How Easy It Is...
To run off believers...
All you have to do is keep citing & quoting the evidence... and believers just get frustrated and leave.
The list of believers who've run from me is long... although mostly trolls, it also includes believers well versed in the evidence, such as John McAdams, Henry Sienzant, Patrick Collins, David Von Pein and others...
Believers simply cannot explain the evidence in terms of their faith - and get irritated every time I point it out.
The evidence is WELL EXPLAINED in terms of a conspiracy - yet doesn't fit the Warren Commission's theory at all.
Which explains why the Warren Commission simply lied about the evidence they collected.
And despite my posting of the "Provable Lies Of The Warren Commission" for many years now - there's *STILL* no answers to them.
Our most recent believer was posting anonymously as "Hollywood" - although he admitted to being the anonymous "Dale" of the Amazon Forums. Unfortunately, due to childish behavior, Hollywood has been placed in a moderation queue - where any future posts he makes will be censored for his frequent ad hominem attacks.
But my crystal ball tells me that like the previous list of believers, "Hollywood" too will disappear...
The evidence simply isn't in their favor.
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All you have to do is keep citing & quoting the evidence... and believers just get frustrated and leave.
The list of believers who've run from me is long... although mostly trolls, it also includes believers well versed in the evidence, such as John McAdams, Henry Sienzant, Patrick Collins, David Von Pein and others...
Believers simply cannot explain the evidence in terms of their faith - and get irritated every time I point it out.
The evidence is WELL EXPLAINED in terms of a conspiracy - yet doesn't fit the Warren Commission's theory at all.
Which explains why the Warren Commission simply lied about the evidence they collected.
And despite my posting of the "Provable Lies Of The Warren Commission" for many years now - there's *STILL* no answers to them.
Our most recent believer was posting anonymously as "Hollywood" - although he admitted to being the anonymous "Dale" of the Amazon Forums. Unfortunately, due to childish behavior, Hollywood has been placed in a moderation queue - where any future posts he makes will be censored for his frequent ad hominem attacks.
But my crystal ball tells me that like the previous list of believers, "Hollywood" too will disappear...
The evidence simply isn't in their favor.
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Clinton's Impeachment... Modern Schooling.
It's truly funny just how many people have never learned the most basic facts about America.
Here's the silly statement quoted:
You can find the original thread here.
Now, I hope that no readers in this forum would make such a monumentally stupid assertion. Former President Clinton was impeached - that's merely historical fact. He was not convicted - that's also a fact.
And, like all believers in the Warren Commission, Anthony Marsh has thus far refused to correct his statement, even doubling down on it in the same forum - asserting that: "They tried, [to impeach] but they didn't have enough votes."
Of course, this is the same person who claimed that Dr. Humes burned paperwork in his fireplace on Saturday, then denied he'd said that.
So Anthony isn't an honest person... but clearly - neither is he an educated one.
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Here's the silly statement quoted:
Anthony Marsh Wrote:They already tried to impeach Bill Clinton and failed.
You can find the original thread here.
Now, I hope that no readers in this forum would make such a monumentally stupid assertion. Former President Clinton was impeached - that's merely historical fact. He was not convicted - that's also a fact.
And, like all believers in the Warren Commission, Anthony Marsh has thus far refused to correct his statement, even doubling down on it in the same forum - asserting that: "They tried, [to impeach] but they didn't have enough votes."
Of course, this is the same person who claimed that Dr. Humes burned paperwork in his fireplace on Saturday, then denied he'd said that.
So Anthony isn't an honest person... but clearly - neither is he an educated one.
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